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New Deer Hunting Survey From Our IDNR
Posted: 13 February 2014 07:52 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Just got an email from the IDNR with this survey link. Only four questions but you will need the customer number off your license. Personally I like that requirement because at least the survey will,, or should I say should be taken by actual deer hunters?

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/IDNRdeerSurvey

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Posted: 13 February 2014 10:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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What does everyone think about the questions? The elimination of over the counter tags seems like a damn good idea. The change to opening firearm to start on a Saturday to allow more youths to hunt without missing school seems like a decent idea, but not sure it has much of an effect? It’s kind of ironic that the DNR waits to release kill totals until there survey is up and running. I suppose it’s a way to show initiative while the totals come in 30,000 below last year. Remember last year was also a low kill total as well. Good to see some action by the DNR. Keep the positive changes coming in the form of limits!!!!,!,!,!,!,!!

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Posted: 13 February 2014 11:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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As much as I would like to view the survey as a positive change, I just don’t know. Seems kind of like lip service to me? You are correct about the elimination of over the counter tags though. I saw it first hand this season, group of idiots shooting anything that moved and then heard one tell the other that they needed to go get more tags.

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Posted: 13 February 2014 11:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I commented on this elsewhere, but here goes. The question of OTC shotgun tags: while I did benefit from this last year, I agree with you CC, it would be a postive change bc it is a form of limit. Also, I think that moving the shotgun season back a day, starting on Sunday is a damn good idea. Guess I’m just selfish on that one, bc it would fit my schedule much better. While I am primarily a bowhunter, I do not think that only shotgun hunters should be limited. My two cents on that is that I would like to see a two buck/two doe limit regardless what weapon you choose. All seasons would still be available, and people would be able to pick and choose how and when they want to harvest their deer.  The additional seasons (crossbow, muzzleloader, late-winter) would be non-issue basically bc everyone has to adhere to their limit for the season anyway

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Posted: 14 February 2014 04:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Seems like progress but only time will tell.  Start putting some limitations on greedy bowhunters and watch the difference it makes.

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Posted: 14 February 2014 08:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Knob, what is there not to know if stopping OTC tags are a good thing? You witnessed the positives and still don’t know?? I agree, there is much more that needs to change and probably won’t? I agree on the limits. Make it one buck, one doe in my opinion. Who the hell needs more than 2 deer? Greed! For the families that need more, if they have a 2nd hunter, that’s 4 deer per year!!! Sounds like plenty to me.

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Posted: 14 February 2014 09:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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carrollcountyhunter2024600 - 14 February 2014 08:29 AM

Knob, what is there not to know if stopping OTC tags are a good thing? You witnessed the positives and still don’t know?? I agree, there is much more that needs to change and probably won’t? I agree on the limits. Make it one buck, one doe in my opinion. Who the hell needs more than 2 deer? Greed! For the families that need more, if they have a 2nd hunter, that’s 4 deer per year!!! Sounds like plenty to me.

What I don’t know is if they will actually make any of these changes or just do something completely different. I am all in on the elimination of OCT.

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Posted: 14 February 2014 09:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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IMHO, the state can have as many seasons as they want but we need a rule of a “hunter may harvest no more than X # of deer TOTAL for all seasons using THE legal hunting methods during each applicable season”

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Posted: 15 February 2014 12:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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carrollcountyhunter2024600 - 14 February 2014 08:29 AM

Knob, what is there not to know if stopping OTC tags are a good thing? You witnessed the positives and still don’t know?? I agree, there is much more that needs to change and probably won’t? I agree on the limits. Make it one buck, one doe in my opinion. Who the hell needs more than 2 deer? Greed! For the families that need more, if they have a 2nd hunter, that’s 4 deer per year!!! Sounds like plenty to me.

+1 on all of that!

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Posted: 15 February 2014 08:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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OZ - 15 February 2014 12:17 AM
carrollcountyhunter2024600 - 14 February 2014 08:29 AM

Knob, what is there not to know if stopping OTC tags are a good thing? You witnessed the positives and still don’t know?? I agree, there is much more that needs to change and probably won’t? I agree on the limits. Make it one buck, one doe in my opinion. Who the hell needs more than 2 deer? Greed! For the families that need more, if they have a 2nd hunter, that’s 4 deer per year!!! Sounds like plenty to me.

+1 on all of that!

Just for clarification, what I don’t know is if they will actually make any changes. I didn’t mean to imply that I wasn’t in support of eliminating the OCT’s because I am.

 

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Posted: 15 February 2014 11:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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In reality, eliminating OTC sales is just a push button issue.  Limit the number of deer a person can harvest, by ANY method.  Let a hunter apply for as many methods as they wish-archery, shotgun, muzzleloader- but they are DONE as soon as they’ve killed X number, regardless of the number of permits they possess.  With the call in system and all the CPO’s with laptops and web connection, they should be able to access your harvest information immediately. 
I’ve been in a position for the past 10 years with two family members in the military, both hunting partners.  For several years, they put in for either sex combo permits, but due to leave or deployments were unable to make it home for the shotgun season.  The last few years, we have relied on OTC sales when they are able to make it home.  I’m sure that many on this site are in a similar situation with either military or friends with limited/restricted time off.  Personally, I don’t want to punish these hunters by making them apply for permits they may not use, or keep them from getting an OTC permit if they should suddenly find that they can go…3 days before the season.

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Posted: 17 February 2014 09:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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+1 for river rat.  I burn tags every year.  I am in a situation where I apply for one county during first lottery and another during random daily drawing.  We live on the border of two counties and I have land I like to hunt in both.  It gets expensive but I don’t mind.  I burnt 6 tags this year. 4 shotgun and a combo archery.  The deer were not there!  I think the limit the amount of animals a hunter can take per year is a good plan.  It would be nice if this issue did not have to go through DNR but just responsible hunters managing the property they hunt.  Ultimately, we are responsible for the animals and I would rather leave government mismangament out of it.

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Posted: 17 February 2014 06:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Why do you have to choose witch one you hunt more with and why do they not have a comment section I think they should limit the number of deer you can kill in a season no matter what method you hunt

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Posted: 18 February 2014 01:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I have no problem with the 2 deer limit. But, say you put in for your shotgun or muzzleloader tags. You tag out with your bow before shotgun season, is DNR going to refund you your shotgun permit fee? You can argue that we all eat tag soup but most of the time we can but don’t use them, it’s still our desire to choose what we do. If in this case if they would do a refund or even keep the money and apply it to next years permits would be ok, and this would be simple for them to do on a web page. Enter your license number, bow permit number with your kill check in number along with your shotgun tag number. I just don’t trust the foxes watching over the hen house when it comes to money!

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Posted: 18 February 2014 04:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Granted, if theoretical limit of 4 deer per person, and you put in for 2 archery, 2 shotgun and 2 muzzleloader permits, you are going to eat two tags…if you fill your archery and shotgun tags before the muzzleloader season.  BUT that was your choice…both to put in for the 6 tags, knowing there was a limit,  and filling the 4 when you did.
Personally, I’d be extremely happy if I just had the opportunity to fill 4 tags.  If I had that many chances, I’d gladly buy two tags per deer I killed.  PS, the area I hunt has plenty of deer…I’m just a poor deer hunter…when it comes to deer hunting, my moons are aligned with a cow pie.

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Posted: 23 February 2014 10:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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http://www.wics.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_15764.shtml

SB2645…....“The Department of Natural Resources has not taken a position on this idea, but they have conducted an online survey of hunters. So far, the preliminary results show that Illinois hunters are overwhelmingly against this change.”

I hope that our IDNR stands behind it’s deerhunters & opposes this bill !!!!!!

 

 

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