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What slug works the best in a 12 gauge H&R ultra slug hunter?.
Posted: 21 December 2014 07:31 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I after 14 years of fighting my Mossberg 695 bolt action traded it in for a H&R 12 gauge ultra hunter. I know most on here hate gun hunters. With that being said , I have no plans to hunt late winter and archery hunt mostly . With my Mossberg I fought it for years as it was not very accurate. Only after trading did I find the problem. It was the scope. When I traded , the scope was put on the H&R that was on the Mossberg. Bushnell banner dusk and dawn. It would show adjusting but something inside must have been bad. After shooting 30 bucks worth of lightfields and hitting a foot low at 25 yards.  I put a Simmons pro series, I had on another gun on it. Has anyone got a H&R and what slug would be best so I don’t spend $200 on sabot’s trying to see which one works , or is that just what I have to do?.

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Posted: 21 December 2014 09:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I would not be ashamed to admit I gun hunt - I do both - traditional archery and gun hunt.  I hut with a custom recurve and hand sharpen broad heads, and fletch my own arrows.  I also love to use my H&R slugger.  I have found that lightfields work the best for me - you might want to try a few different brands to see what works best for you.  I have encountered idiots that hunt with bows as well as guns.  It is not the weapon it is the mentality! to each their own hunt smart and hunt ethically and screw the others.

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Posted: 21 December 2014 09:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Have had lots of range time with H&R’s. Have sighted in a 12G and a pair of 20G. IMO 20G is lighter, easier to handle, softer shooting,and packs plenty of punch. Am running Core-lokt Remingtons in 2 outa 3. By the numbers, they are 200yd. Guns and have ben proven in the field. For the 12G, Core-Lokt and Hornady SST printed fabulously. Though the Remington packed abit more punch so that is wat it eats. Copper solids did just as well with that gun but bullet drop was not acceptable for long shots for me. Would be bullet of choice for youth or newbies as with the bull barrel, shoot very soft. These slugs are not cheap. But after initial range investment($400),a check or two before each season and one or two shots during season justifies the expense. Happy shooting.

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Posted: 21 December 2014 10:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Knox, My family gun hunts and its all about putting meat in the freezer.Hornady sst all the way…

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Posted: 21 December 2014 10:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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My wife’s 12 likes the Hornady SSTs.  Very capable at 150yds, but haven’t shot it past that on paper.  I’m totally confident that it is capable at distances past that, but haven’t proven it to ourselves at the range yet.

I’ve heard rumors that the older versions work better with the SSTs.  Some say that after Freedom Group bought H&R, Remington tweaked the rifling to favor their Accutip slugs.  Can’t say if that’s true or not, but you may also try them.

And if you like Lightfields (I don’t)....it’s hard to find a gun that doesn’t shoot them well out to 100yds or so.

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Posted: 21 December 2014 11:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Thanks all, I think I will try the SST’s / Lightfields / and Remington’s accu point first, that’s only 60 bucks worth lol.. The Gun I have is used but it doesn’t look like it was hardly shot. It’s the thumbhole , multicolored stock, bet it weights 10 or 11 pounds 12 gauge . I have a 2006 Simmons masters series on it. It was on a Remington 870 .20 gauge.  I hope it holds up better than the Bushnell banner dusk and dawn. I hear Remington bought out H&R and next year they are going to be made in Turkey. I figured I better get one before they are made like shizz!. Looked for a new .12 and everyone was out of stock???. So used it was.

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Posted: 21 December 2014 05:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Knox I have been shooting the accutips for a while. They are damn accurate and are definitly a 200 yard slug but I’m not convinced with their knock down power. If your shooting a hundred yards or less, u might try Brennekke Green lightnings also. A cheaper sabot with what seems like a heavier punch, very accurate in that gun, but after a hundred yards they tend to start dropping pretty fast. Last time I bought some of them, they were only about 8.50 a box. Not too bad a price for a sabot.

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Posted: 21 December 2014 06:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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  Brenneke slugs. I remember shooting the KO’s back in the late 70’s when I started hunting deer. They were pretty accurate back then. I shot my Grandpa’s old 870 wing master .20 gauge 20” smooth bore slug barrel. I did not know they made sabots . I will look it up . Thanks again.I read a lot about the accu tips today and you’re not the only one that says they lack power past 100 yards. My farthest shot would be 130 yards along my crp field.

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Posted: 22 December 2014 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I think I saw your comment over on IWA. I shoot Hornady SSTs out of my 12 ga slug hunter and I’m really happy with it. To be honest, though, I tested my slug hunter with several different brands (Hornady, Lightfield, Remington) and had pretty good groups (<5” groups) with each brand at about 100 yards. In my experience, though, the Hornady’s were just a little bit more consistent than the rest. I dropped my best buck yet with one shot at 115 yards with the slug hunter/hornady combo this year.  smile

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Posted: 29 December 2014 10:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Anybody have trouble with the HR ejecting spent shell?  Bought my 12ga this summer and it rarely fully ejects after taking the shot.

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Posted: 29 December 2014 11:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I haven’t had that problem with the one we have.  I did have a pierced primer when I was first sighting in the gun.  I’d heard others complain of the same problem, but it only happened to us once.  But ours is probably 6yrs old or so. 

They have undergone a few changes since Freedom Group bought H&R.  I believe they adopted Remington’s ultragon rifling….since they are sister companies now.  Some people think that was a step backward for the gun.  But most everyone I know that has bought new ones, still get good accuracy out of them.

FYI, if you are a big fan of these guns, you might consider buying as many as you think you will need.  They are scheduled to stop production on them some time during the 1st quarter of the new year.  They claim the profit margin is too slim.  I personally think that’s a bunch of baloney, and believe there are other factors at play.  But that’s just me.

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Posted: 31 December 2014 07:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Whats wrong with gun hunting? Its all I have left. I used to have numerous places to bowhunt and did frequently. Land has been developed, subdivisions now or village limits. Each individual gun is going to shoot differently, smoothbore or rifled. Several years back I scaled down from a 12 gauge to a 20 gauge for slug hunting. I use Remington premier copper solids in a rifled barrel. With just iron sights it is very accurate at 75 yds. I do hear a lot of good about the Hornady SST slugs and I did try them but the Rem’s were the best for my gun. Theres a ton of info about ballistics for slugs on the internet.

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Posted: 31 December 2014 01:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Merry Christmas to me smile . I just came in from sighting in my H&R ultra 12 gauge. I tried Federal premiums and they were all over at 50 yards. Tried Hornady American whitetail’s and they were all over at 50 yards. Tried Remington accu tips they were all over at 50 yards.  Even the mighty Hornady SST’s were all over at 50 yards. This was all from a sand bag rest. My last sabots to try were Winchester super x BRI Sabots. They grouped less than 1/4 inch apart at 50 yards 2.5 inches high for 5 shots , which should make them dead on at 100. So I backed up 50 yards and shot 5 more . They were 1/4 inch high and 1/4 inch apart in a circle at 100 yards dead center with 5 shots. I think I will stick with them. They may not be the elite sabots but good enough for me. Cheaper than all the rest too. Happy New Year everyone.

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Posted: 01 January 2015 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Right on Knox. They all shoot differently. I chose the premiere slugs because of results like yours. Slugs have really come a long way in recent years haven’t they?

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Posted: 01 January 2015 12:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I am going to try Lightfields to. They are shaped somewhat like the Winchester BRI’s and I would like at least be able to have another go to round if I cannot find the Winchesters. Anyone tried the buckhammers?. Are there any other sabots similar to Winchester bri’s I am missing?. The hour glass shape.

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Posted: 02 January 2015 08:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I think Remington discontinued the buckhammer slugs but ya might still be able to get them online somewhere.

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