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Posted: 22 July 2014 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Has anybody else noticed that there are 2 seasons for muzzleloader and 2 seasons for late winter antlerless only this year? Why do we need 2? Am I missing something?  Is this different dates for different parts of the state?

Here is the link from DNR website-

http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/calendar/Pages/DNRSeasons.aspx

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Posted: 22 July 2014 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I think if you apply for regular muzzleloader permit (what they call second season) you can also use that permit during the 2nd regular firearm season (what they are calling first muzzle season).

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Posted: 22 July 2014 06:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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That’s the way I understand it too.

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Posted: 22 July 2014 08:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Why is there even a separate muzzleloader season….can’t they use a muzzleloader during the first two gun seasons? And why they heck is there two antlerless only seasons? They should totally eliminate one of those antlerless only seasons!! They should cut back on all the separate firearm seasons and bring back the bounties on coyotes cause they’re a lot of the problem too!! That’s just my opinion!

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Posted: 23 July 2014 07:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yep you guys are right.  I didn’t see the dates were the same for the muzzleloader first season and firearm 2nd season.

Since when did we have to LWS antlerless seasons though?

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Posted: 23 July 2014 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I’m thinking at least 4 years ago it started, certainly a lot of controversy about it since then.  Need to check 2014 as it only applies to certain counties.

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Posted: 23 July 2014 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Wow.  I guess I have been out of the loop.  I never did hunt the late winter seasons, so maybe thats why I never knew there were 2.  2 is definately overkill.  Im glad I don’t shotgun hunt anymore!

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Posted: 23 July 2014 07:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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  Ok everybody keeps bashing the gun hunters who for the most part can get 2 to 4 permits if he muzzleloads, I don’t know anybody looking to buy leftover permits. So we bowhunters need to look at the abuse of the unlimited bow tags, because any over 4 are really doe permits, can see a guy buying 4 in order to have 2 buck permits. The archery kill has zoomed while the firearm kill has declined, need to make changes overall. Who would have thought 20 years ago that the bow kill would rival the gun kill, haven’t seen the buck to doe stastic for bow kills, sure its out there somewhere.We aren’t going to get this done by just bashing gun hunters’ just an old dudes opinion.

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Posted: 24 July 2014 08:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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The 3-day “muzzleloader only” season has been in place since 1991-92.  I don’t recall when a muzzleloader only season permit was allowed to be used during the 2nd gun season—I’ll have to dig that up.  The late-winter season expanded to 7 days in 2009-10.

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Posted: 24 July 2014 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Muzzleloader-Only: Dec. 12 - 14. You may also use a muzzleloader permit
with a muzzleloader during the second firearm season on Dec. 4 - 7.

This is from the 2014 Deer Hunting Information Sheet from the DNR Web Site.

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Posted: 25 July 2014 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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It looks like the “muzzleloader only” permit became eligible to use during 2nd firearm season beginning in 1992-93.  NOTE:  ML harvest in annual deer harvest reports is for the 3-day ML only season.  Tom

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Posted: 25 July 2014 09:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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The Muzzleloader season has become a big cash cow for the outfitters. The either sex (read buck tag) tags sell out for most counties. The non-residents are the ones that buy up most of the muzzleloader tags in the Golden Triangle. The other part which is a big scam is the non-residents that lease up ground or hunt public ground, get the muzzleloaders tags. In between the two season they archery hunt using one of the cheap non-resident antlerless tags. If a buck comes by they arrow it and then just hide it out for a few days. If they don’t kill a bigger buck with the smoke pole in those three days of the muzzleloader season, the archery buck gets checked in as a muzzleloader buck on Sunday.

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Posted: 27 July 2014 09:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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DozRdeer2…......were muzzleloader permit quotas changed any for this year,  or just the firearm ?????

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Posted: 28 July 2014 08:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Lynn - Yes, ML permit quotas were also changed.  Either-sex quotas went from 28480 to 26540; and antlerless quotas changed from 17665 to 15415 (2013 to 2014).  Tom

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Posted: 28 July 2014 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Now Colonel, you don’t really believe things like that happen over here where we live do you? Like N/R’s buying all-“or maybe all but one”,  Antlerless archery permits while hunting in a group? Are you telling me you and the rest of the current CPO’s see this happening in our wonderful state?

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Posted: 28 July 2014 10:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Thanks for the info Tom.
VERY glad to hear that the muzzleloader tags have been reduced too !!!!
Hopefully ALL the quota numbers, actual tags sold numbers AND… DVA numbers, will be posted online for everyone to see in the coming years, as I suggested to Marc, at the Legislative Sportsmen’s Caucus. I know he liked that suggest, since he mentioned it in the meeting with all of us.
IF….that does happen, I won’t have to bug you with these silly questions & Kevin won’t have to bother our state workers with all those FOIA’s request.
We just feel that ALL the deerhunters need to be very well informed, so they are making the best educated decision on how our IL herd is actually doing AND on how our herd is being managed. Both on a state & county bases too !!!!
THANKS again for the info !

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