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Posted: 06 January 2015 11:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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huntinghard - 06 January 2015 11:23 AM

Name one guy that shoot over 5 deer a year?  You can’t and will not.

Are you saying you don’t believe there are hunters who kill more than 5 deer in a season?

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Posted: 06 January 2015 11:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Give me one name & county.

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Posted: 06 January 2015 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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I wont give you a name or county but can tell you for a fact I have a friend that has shot 15 this year and this is the fewest deer he has shot in the last 10 years. I don’t know what your point is in asking for a name and county, its all legal

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Posted: 06 January 2015 07:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Same here.  Not naming names but I know 3 in Piatt, 1 in Dewitt, and 1 in Macon that have killed 5 or more.  2 in double digits

Yellowstone   We know the same guy

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Posted: 06 January 2015 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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I know a guy tagged 3 didn’t recover four.  I’m sure those guys shooting that many aren’t recovering them all either.

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Posted: 06 January 2015 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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huntinghard - 06 January 2015 11:37 AM

Give me one name & county.

I didn’t say I know anyone who kills more than five a season. I’m just wondering if you believe that it doesn’t happen?

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Posted: 07 January 2015 08:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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huntinghard - 06 January 2015 11:23 AM

The last point I do not see discussed on here is that I have felt in order to help population in some areas it would be more of a benefit to the herd to shoot a small buck than does, has anyone practiced this?  I know in some areas you might get a bloody nose, but I think it could be the best approach.

Bucks and does are supposedly born at a 1:1 ratio.  But bucks have a higher natural mortality rate.  So shooting a small buck for meat, rather than a doe, is an unwise practice. 

It is one of the ways that Pike Co. has crumbled.  They had more than enough deer in the past, regardless of what they see there now.  But outfitters were tying up large chunks of the county, bringing in hunters that weren’t there to shoot a doe, and not letting anyone in to shoot does to keep a balanced herd.  Thus, neighbors complained of the quality of bucks going down and having too many deer.  Depredation permits are issued.  And it just turns into one big mess.

Don’t shoot a small buck for meat if you want the herd to grow.  If you want to grow your numbers….don’t shoot any deer.

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Posted: 07 January 2015 08:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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By the way….I can name one in Wayne Co.  and one in Jefferson Co.

The Jefferson Co. guy typically shoots double digits on just one or two tags.

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Posted: 10 January 2015 11:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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There are hunters and there are killers. Do not confuse the two. I know many who are disgusted after a day in the field/ woods because they didn’t get to fire the gun or shoot the bow. Anyone can pick up the gun/bow and go to the field, but there is a line between being a hunter and a killer.  It comes down to ethics and those are a matter of upbringing and personal character.

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Posted: 10 January 2015 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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My ex bro in law killed more than 5 for years. It happens without a doubt.

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Posted: 11 January 2015 10:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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An old man told me a story from back in the depression era. He said he and his brother hunted with their father when they were very young. His dad allowed each boy one shell to hunt with for the day. He said a rabbit jumped up and sat in front of his brother. His brother aimed at it but didn’t pull the trigger and it soon ran off. When he asked his brother why he didn’t shoot he said “Because I didn’t want to quit hunting.” If you understand that, you are probably a hunter. If that makes no sense to you, you are probably a killer.

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Posted: 18 January 2015 04:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Good post Yellow. We all have our own reasons for going to the field/woods/marsh/river. Be it hanging a stand, digging a pit or splashing decoys or casting into that great spot we all have our own reasons for it. Some folks look at it differently from others. This is a matter of opinions and mine agrees with yours but as long as the game laws are being followed then I have to live with it. I do not have to agree with it though. There are many things that the game and fish laws allow that I don’t particularly care for but you can’t make an ethics law, because that is based on personal interpretation. All we can do is show/teach our youth the right way (in our own thoughts) how to carry and conduct themselves in the field.

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