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Check out what the IA farm bureau suggests to manage deer population
Posted: 19 December 2014 01:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Why does it always have to come down to this?. Maybe what I said was the wrong way to say it now that I re-read what I wrote earlier. It kind of sounded like I was making fun of the situation. I truly wasn’t. I know the farmer and he is a good man. I am sorry for that. But why all the name calling . We are grown men not little boys on the playground. I apologize if I offended anyone.

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Posted: 19 December 2014 01:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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clintoncountysucks - 19 December 2014 12:18 PM

Buckbull, maybe we can just stop using those chemicals and not be able to grow as much, and what we do grow, we can export to china for a higher price and you can grow your own food, damn hippies

Thats not a very intelligent response.  Nowhere did I say to ban pesticides and fertilizer.  I grew up on a large dairy farm and pulled more teats and bailed more hay and cut more silage than you ever will bud.  There needs to be reasonable usage of any pesticide or fertilizer.  Tilling under waterways, fencerows, and CRP only exasperates the issue.  Study after study points to overuse of these chemicals and little is done to change the usage rates.  If you are the future of farming; god help us all.

BTW, I’m concerned about my environment and how man is making negative changes that effect wildlife and our food supply.  I don’t think thats the definition of “hippie”.

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Posted: 19 December 2014 02:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Knoxcounty , no need to appologize . Im pretty sure all the adults who read your post understood the joking nature ( squirrel karma ) of your post. I also dont believe anyone on here tries to be mean spirited except maybe one who seems to always go to name calling right off the bat . I gave him some of his own medicine simply to make a point . You have a right to your opinion as do i and him and shouldnt feel compelled to apologize because someone doesnt like yours. I personally thought your post was kinda funny and never saw it as you wishing anything bad on that farmer. Have a nice day

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Posted: 19 December 2014 02:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Thanks Mattg .... I did not mean it being mean spirited , that would have been 20 years ago when I was Ignorant. wink . I can somewhat see his point and kind of feel sorry for him. If he is a farmer he has probably seen his share of trespassers and drought and deer and coons eating his crops . He is in business to feed his family .  But a little thing called couth he needs to work on .

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Posted: 19 December 2014 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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ok matty, first off, my truck is 2 years old. Lol.  And if being a good steward to the land and wildlife includes leaving some crops every year out for the deer and turkey, having waterways, and crp. then I would say I am one. Buckbull, growing silage and hay doesnt have the need for much tillage. I’m not out there tilling up waterways and destroying all the crp I can. Actually a large part of our farm is enrolled in crp. I make new waterways every year to stop erosion and field drainage.
And I’m sure that you have cut more silage and hay than I ever will because I dont have cattle. Sooooo yea, I would say you have. lol.  I’m kind of proud of you two. Especially you Mattg, but dont act like you wouldnt do it if you could. lol

Knox county, I apologize If it sounded like I wished that upon your house. I did not.  What I meant was that you may think back to that moment if that ever did happen.

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Posted: 19 December 2014 03:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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clintoncountysucks….apology accepted .  I live in the country. Don’t farm but have timber ground between farms. The farmers I live next to are some of the most awesome people I have ever met. Nice as the day is long and would help you at the drop of a hat. Please realize this Heartland Outdoors , not farmers only .com. I know it goes hand in hand. Thanks to farmers we do have more deer , turkey , squirrels , rabbits , quail ....if it wasn’t for farmers water ways and fence rows we probably would not have near as many.

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Posted: 19 December 2014 03:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Do what if i could ? You make no sense . Maybe you should have someone proof read your posts before posting them . Your nothing but a smartass punk that needs to go back down to your moms basement and play video games . I can tell by the way you talk your a punk living off of daddys farm . a large part of your farm is in crp ? That money comes from us tax paying ” trespassers ” as you seem to call everyone . If not for what has been given to you you would have nothing but maybe a shit job somewhere scrubbing toilets . Please stop reffering to it as our farm and call it what it is daddy’s farm . Sorry i know i shouldnt stoop to your level however some people ( idiots like you ) just bring out the worst in me .

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Posted: 19 December 2014 04:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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lol. I know Knox C. Even though my daughter likes to sing the farmers only.com song. I’m obviously a hunter and can see both sides of the issue and in my farming practices I try to accommodate to both. Of course it was going to get a rise when this topic was started and I prolly put in my 2 cents a bit harshly. But environmental changes happen all over that affect hunting and wildlife, for example, a super walmart was built directly on the site where I killed one of my best bucks a few years back. Now did a walmart really have to build a second store only 2 miles from another? Goes back to the comment of having the cake and eating it too. If it makes financial sense, there are those that will think nothing about the environmental changes being made on the way to get that money. BUT there are those who may agree that taking out that fencerow might change deer travel patterns, may blow out that brush pile that holds that huge covey of quail and may wipe out that hiding spot for the rabbit from the hawk. Even though I do like to watch a hawk get one, thats just watching the food chain at its finest. I know there are a lot of non hunting farmers, and yea they do charge an assload to hunt their ground, but it does give someone an opportunity to hunt that mite not have had an opportunity without them. Some of those farmers will also wipe out a fencerow just to make their ground look better. While I cant shun them for doing that, I wont take them out on our property,because I know if you wanna kill a big one, especially around here, you better go sit in a fencerow. On the other hand, i have some people that I rent ground from requesting that they come out. This is not my decision, but at the wish of the landowner, I will take one out. Not always the farmer making the decisions that affect our wildlife. As far as the fertilizer and chemicals, there will never be a correct answer for that because just as in hunting, there are those farmers that do conserve waterways and drainage and then there are those who will till up your driveway given the chance. Sorry about the trespassing comments but I have dealt with numerous trespassers over the years and have actually been cussed out on my own property while they are standing on it. Its not even that I wont let people hunt, because I do, IF they are nice enough to come to my front door, instead of trying to sneak in the back door. Just as farmers, there are a few bad hunters that give a bad name to the sport and I know many farmers who wont have anyhting to do with hunters becuz of 4 wheeler tracks in their fields, broadheads in their tires, and the constant bickering over whos supposed to be hunting there and whos not. Most of them have more to worry about than whether johnnu is hunting in willies treestand.

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Posted: 19 December 2014 04:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Geez, easy there matt. And actually I did work a shit job up until my dad passed and I moved back and started farming. Sure he had a farm and started it from scratch, but it is now 5 times the size it was and that wasn’t handed to me. Not that thats any of your business and you seem to have plenty of money becuz you keep talking about how much you pay in taxes. And what I meant saying you would do it if you could was getting a headstart at a farming operation if you were given the chance. I said it humorously, but I guess you didnt take it that way. The CRP is a government program, and open to the public, so I suggest if you have a problem with it, you can either sign up for it or take your opinions to the government

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Posted: 19 December 2014 04:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Now thats a good post . Wish you could address every post like that instead of going to name calling . We have a big trespassing problem around my house too so i feel for ya . The landowner / farmer that is gracious enough to allow me to hunt simply lets only 1 or 2 people hunt any of his farms and anyone else caught is turned into conservation . After word gets out it slows considerably .

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Posted: 19 December 2014 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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You must have a better CPO there than we have here. Trying to get a hold of our CPO is like trying to throw an egg without breaking it

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Posted: 19 December 2014 04:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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I have a big farming family and did farm for 11 years but chose to do other things and yes i do pay alot in taxes . So does every hard working person in this state . guess i should have waited on that last post as ya snuck one in on me while i was on the phone , govt handouts are welfare and yes it bothers me that my hard earned money is given to anyone that either doesnt want to work or someone that doesnt need it . If you truelly farm 3000 acres you should be able to survive without taxpayer help and if not get a second job as most people have to do .

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Posted: 19 December 2014 05:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Okay. Now that we are all on the same page here somewhat. Clintoncountysucks…you seem like a likeable guy. Glad we mended fences and glad to know you are a hunter and am sorry about your father . Mattg is a good guy like 90% of the guys on here. I respect him as he tells it like it is. We have to stop the bickering as it just fans the flames of Springfield. Look they are at each others throats all we have to do is watch. Please cooler heads need to prevail here.

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Posted: 19 December 2014 05:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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You got it knox thankyou for being the cooler head in all of this . How about them cowboys ?

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Posted: 19 December 2014 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Oh no problem Mattg. 20 years ago I was like you and would be ready to scratch some gravel if someone accused me of trespassing. I’m older and have had rt. rotator cuff surgery and a cervical fusion. That slowed me way down. Cowboys????? they are good this year. I am almost embarrassed to say my team is the Tennessee Titans . I think I am the only person in Illinois that likes them. Started at 7 as an Oiler fan and followed them to Nashville.

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