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Muzzleloader loads?
Posted: 28 October 2013 09:39 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I was just wondering what load everyone else shoots out of their muzzleloaders and their max comfortable shooting distance.  I have been debating on changing things up.  I shoot (2) 50gr. triple seven pellets with a 250gr. Hornady SST.

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Posted: 28 October 2013 11:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Butter, Whats the recoil like with the 100grains?Im buying a t/c for little freak and im thinking 80-100 grains for him.The youth Mossberg 20 kicks like a mule even being ported, So im thinking muzzleloader is the way to go.

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Posted: 28 October 2013 12:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I shoot 100 grains of Black horn 209 and 240 grain Barnes expanders.  I have great accuracy out of my T/C Pro Hunter.  It is the best powder I have shot and have been muzzleloader hunting for twelve years now.  It cleans up with Hopper’s but there is no fouling near the breech plug like you get with triple seven.

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Posted: 28 October 2013 03:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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150 gr pyrodex 300 gr Lightfield Alpha Golds. Kicks and hits harder than anything I have ever shot.

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Posted: 28 October 2013 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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T/C Omega 3 50gr Triple 7s with 240gr mag express sabots

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Posted: 29 October 2013 07:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I shoot 100gr 777 pellets with a 245 Barnes.  With my TC Encore I have great accuracy and would take a 150 yard easily.  Ideal conditions I would take a 200.

My ML doesn’t like 150gr of pellets.  The accuracy drops quite a bit.  Every gun is different.

Freak.  Both my kids love shooting the ML. Started them last year at 7 and 10.  Thats because when we are target shooting, I only put in half loads.  Loaded with 60gr of 777 pellets, the ML doesn’t kick much at all and the kids will shoot it all day long.  When it comes to hunting time, I load it with full 100gr.  They still think the gun won’t kick them and they are not scared of it.  No flinch and good shots.  Also, hardly any difference in trajectory between 60gr and 100gr at the ranges I would let them shoot.

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Posted: 29 October 2013 11:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Hey Whitetailfreak, I think the recoil with 100gr of powder would be fine for youth hunters.  I strongly suggest the youth model H&R for a slug gun for a kid.  My boy has been shooting his since he was 7.  It has light recoil and its a tack driver.

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Posted: 29 October 2013 08:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I sighted in with the same load as Butterball this year, 100 gr. 777 with 250 SST’s.  Doesn’t kick bad at all.  Last few years, I shot 300 gr. SST’s, which shot fine too.  When I first started, I went right to max, 150 gr 777 (originally Pyrodex actually, but that was short lived), and it kicked like heck.  Went don to 120 (four 30 gr. 777 pellets) which really shot good, but got expensive as I was shooting 4 pellets and 30s aren’t much cheaper than 50s, so now I’m down to 100 gr. 777, and it works just fine.  I found the my accuracy increased when I went from150 to 120 considerably.

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Posted: 01 November 2013 07:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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my son shoots a cva wolf with 240 grain bullet with 90 grains of blackhorn 209 powder. Very accurate and very easy to clean wouldn’t be afraid to shoot out to 125 to 150 yrds with it if you never shot blackhorn 209 powder before you need to try it we shot 14 rounds thru his without swabbing once still was easy to load still accurate you could drop the powder down a litle more if needed you can only use a max of 120 grains thats equivelent to 150 grains of other types of powder We shoot a 240 grain 44cal nosler pistol bullets than put the sabot on bought a box of 250 bullets plus the sabots for about 60 dollars all together bought those about 5 or 6 years ago still have almost a half box left very cheap to shoot and they are very accurate out of ours iI shoot a cva accura he shoots the wolf

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Posted: 19 November 2013 12:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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As stated, it all depends on the ML for accuracy and the amount of powder and gr shot. That being said, I do feel that 100gr will produce more consistant accuracy than 150gr, it all depends on cleaning the barrel after each shot also for accuracy. But once in the field, its the first shot that counts.

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Posted: 03 December 2013 10:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Out of my Encore I shoot 110 grains by volume of BH 209, a Harvester black smooth sabot, and either a 250 or 300 grain XTP (both .451”) and get the best groups I have ever shot out of that ML. And that’s saying something as I have well over 1000 loads out of it using Pyrodex pellets, and 700+ using 3-F 777. I sight in 3-3.5” high at 100yrds, am dead on at 150yrds, and are 7-9” low at 200yrds. Conditions would need to be near perfect for me to shoot past 150yrds though.

I would rather buy BH 209 than use any other BP sub given to me to use for free!! Same go’s for Harvester Sabots.

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Posted: 12 December 2013 04:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Grandson now (12) shoots T/C Impact 2- 777 50 gr pellets with 250gr XTP Bullet.  Worked him up at the range with 1/2 charge until he got confident.  Shot 3 point (1/2 rack missing) two years ago at 50 yds and 5pt at 100yds this year.  Both ran about 60 yds before dropping dead.  This kid can shoot.  I have both T/C Impact w/ 2x7 Nikon and Omega with 3x9 Nikon BDC scope.  I prefer to use granulated 777 in both 2 and 3 F. I’ve had success with both 250 and 300 grain XTPs.  I weigh out each load to equiv 100 grs by volume just for funzies (which for me is around 75 grs by weight) I’ve tried up to 130/volume on both powders but always return to 100.  Less cost and recoil and improved accuracy.  BDC on Omega is dialed in at 150 yds., but most of my shots have been within 100 yds.  I’ve never had to shoot more than once to take a deer down, so the crud ring is not a factor.

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Posted: 19 December 2013 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I have a CVA Accura and shoot 250 grain SST low-drags with 82 grains (by weight) of Blackhorn 209 with a winchester shotgun primer (not a muzzleloader primer). I am carrying less than a 1” group at 100 yards and am very comfortable out to 200 yards. After 6 shots with no cleaning between shots accuracy stays the same and loading is just as easy as the first. I strongly recommend Blackhorn.

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