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Muzzleloaders for youth season???
Posted: 18 February 2013 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Ok so, The mossberg rocked his world youth season, And now he wants a muzzleloader..Can anyone give me some advice on afew good ones for a 10 year old? Is 100grains enough to kill a deer at 100 yards? I know NOTHING about muzzleloaders and any help would be awesome….Thanks guys…........

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Posted: 18 February 2013 02:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I used one for my 7 year old.  During the summer, I let him practice shooting with 60-80 grains so it wouldn’t kick much.  For hunting I loaded it with 100gr which is plenty for deer.  My encore shoots a lot better with 100gr then it does with 150gr and their are many arguments out there stating using 150gr is a waste.

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Posted: 18 February 2013 04:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Depends on whether you are shooting an inline with a faster twist barrel shooting conicals or sabots, or a traditional percussion gun with a patched round ball and a slower twist barrel. Most of the time the faster twist barrels need a hotter load to group well..but not that hot. I have an older “Traditions” with a 1 turn in 28 inch barrel that is supposed to max out at 150 grains, but I have never shot it hunting with more than 100 grains in it. Most of the barrels on the inlines are not long enough to burn 150 grains of powder…but of course most guys are looking for the big heavy loads when they are hunting. As an experiment, I laid a couple white sheets out on the ground in front of the muzzle when I was shooting from the bench…and you would be amazed at how much unburnt powder ends up on the sheets with 150 grains of powder. Quite frankly, 80 grains in these “Traditions” inlines shoots and groups very well out to over a hundred yards using a 250 grain sabot in either hollow point or spitzer style bullets…but the hollow points drop about 4 inches lower at 100 yards, so I would recommend the spitzer style bullets. Some of the lead swaged spitzer bullets that are available through Cabela’s are boat tailed to boot, making the drop even less than the plain spitzer bullet. But I have killed a lot of deer with a 50 caliber TC side lock percussion and a 200 and something grain patched round ball and 60 grains of 3F black, with several being 90 to 125 yards…and shot right through the deer most times. Forget the idea of a big load when hunting. Find an adequate load that GROUPS WELL, and use it hunting. Got a childhood friend who grew up hunting with an old Tingle 40 caliber offhand rifle shooting patched round balls (yes, years ago 40 caliber was legal)with 50 grains of 3F and killed every deer he shot at.

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Posted: 18 February 2013 08:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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My son has a cva wolf he shoots 80 grains of blackhorn 209 powder this muzzleloader is very accurate it will shoot a 3 in group at 150 yrds it ha very little kick he’s 15 now but been shooting it since 10 this powder burns very clean you can shoot 10 to 15 shots without swabbing

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Posted: 19 February 2013 11:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I have a CVA Wolf as well, and I got my 9 year old a Traditions Canyon. We shoot 100 grains of pyrodex pellets and hornandy XTP’s. He can handle either gun well. One nice thing about the traditions is after you cock the hammer it also has a trigger safety. The Wolf is cocked and loaded when you draw the hammer back. Something to consider for smaller hands… I can cock the hammer once we are in stand for him, and then all he has to worry about is the safety. We do NOT use scopes, but have fiber optic sights. I have killed deer out to 100 yeards with this set up. It is very accurate, and a lot of fun to shoot.

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Posted: 29 March 2013 10:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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After I bought my ML, I loaded it up to max (150) and shot it that way for a couple years.  Eventually figured out that at 120, it’s at its best, but 100 is better than 150.  Bottom line, 100 is plenty.

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