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Posted: 29 November 2011 07:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Tree not saying it doesn’t help control odor I am just in doubts that there were not other factors involved. Try the milk weed seed idea next time your out, they are light and will float with the wind and thermals. You might be shocked to see theseed leave your hand and head straight up 20 or 30 feet.
That all being said there have been tests done with dogs and as long as scenting conditions were right there was no way to fool the animals nose.
I’m sure this stuff is good and I’m intersted in it for things like elk and deer camp when a washer is not available. Which is why I wonder how long a treatment lasts, since the sprays I’ve tried are fairly useless.

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Posted: 29 November 2011 08:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Steve I am not sure how long it actually lasts. I use a spray bottle and liberally apply it to myself every time I go into the woods just like I would with the other stuff. I spray everything (clothes, bow, bag, skin, boots, etc.) once I am out of the truck and ready to walk. I also keep the bottle in my bag and re-apply a little more if I am in the stand for a long period of time. For the cost of the bottle of CS and how much you can make versus buying the stuff already made up I feel like I can be a bit wasteful and not have to worry about it.

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Posted: 29 November 2011 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Treehugger,

About your comment concerning scent control on boots. I have worn Muck boots for years and have been successful using powdered carbon (even the less-than full strength kind) from different companies. I have also used a fine black powder similar to CS. I have had deer (bucks, does, large small) cross my trail anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours after I have walked through. Although a few have busted, most of them never notice, or simply act curious. Several have even trailed me (even right to my tree, smelling the rungs on my ladder stand).

I have had coyotes cross my trail as well, completely unknowing of my scent.

I simply heavily powder the sole, heel, toe, uppers (the whole thing actually) of my boots, as well as my pant legs.

As with all scent control -  it’s not 100% fool-proof, but I have been amazed at how many times the deer and coyotes walk directly across my entry trail.

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Posted: 29 November 2011 10:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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hbeckel…Thanks.  I’m going to give that a try.  Heck, with all the bottles I still have left (and didn’t pay for) I can sure afford to.  I used to get away with a deer crossing my trail at my old place quite a bit, but not at the new place.  One whiff and they either just turn around or completely booger up.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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You have every right to be skeptical, Steve. I was too. My skepticism is what eventually led me to buy the product to see for myself. It’s one of the best small purchases (<$20) on a single hunting item I've ever made. Compare to other small purchase hunting accessories such as doe pee. Sure, the Tinks 69 and Code Blue works….sometimes….and when a rutting buck is in the area. But I've found that this stuff has worked 100% of the time for me thus far. Will it work 100% of the time, all the time? No way. I don't think CS would even say that. But in the numerous situations I've had already with deer being downwind of me this year, I'm certain that I

would have been busted at least the majority of times if I was using my conventional cover sprays (Primos or HS stuff). Deer just don’t routinely walk 10 yds downwind from a hunter in a groundblind and not notice, unless there’s some good scent control.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 09:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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I wonder if my blaze orange will still blaze after I get done CS’n it?

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Posted: 30 November 2011 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Good Morning everyone and just fyi here, keeping up with all the forums, chat etc is darn tough! But Steve heres the real thought process in this for us, everything is about percentages for us in a hunt. What % can you get away with in the woods to keep deer activity near normal with a hunter being in their “personal space” is the key. If any product helps 10% than thats better than before right? So find things that up your chances and improve a little at a time til you achieve that somewhat “balance” in the woods. NO WAY will we use the word ELIMINATE ODOR or KILL ODOR in our desciption due to thats not whats really happening with CS. We absorb odor to a point and the silver affects bacteria growth to reduce odors in a cellular level but ofcourse people just want to know it works and thats the bottom line. Now we could never put a % on your success or failures because we’re not selling you clothes pre-made with CS in them but YOU choose how much you would like to add or minus to your gear. Yes its dirty but it works and that really is the point, not fancy gimmicks. Now Steve you sound like just the hunter i’d(Irv) would love to hunt with. You think out side the realm of what MOST people think about, thermals. Now this is my personal talk here now and not company talk….......watch out! I dont personally even think your body odor is the biggest issue in the woods, its you hair and breath. Now i can cover certain things up to a point with clothes and washing this and that but if you dont brush you teeth and watch what you eat before you hunt then why shower? Every hunt im brushing my teeth and chewing gum, (not Big Red fyi) just to keep me swallowing any bacteria that may be forming in my mouth during sits more than 10 min cuz thats about when your mouth starts up the process of unclean after a good brush because you know you have to eat something! As for the hair, this is where CS really does its job. I have NEVER had anything that absorb odor like CS and ive tried everything under the sun or we would have never work on putting this product out. Simple, effective, cheap and made for the guy that really wants to work towards that “balance” in the hunt.
  Steve, how many times you treat your clothes…....up to you. I love doing mine dry often like once a week because its FAST but its MESSY! Im never clean hunting or working so it almost looks like im doing the same thing at times. You may only have to do yours 2x a year, thats the beauty. YOU CHOOSE! i hunt about 40-45 days a year if that helps you in your thought process.
  Matts, turn blaze inside out because blaze orange well is blaze orange and it looks horrible though it works fine.
See ya later everyone and good luck IL with your hunt this weekends opener!

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Posted: 30 November 2011 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Hey Newbie (CS),

I agree with you 100% about hair and breath odor. However, I DO us Big Red gum.

Several years ago, I was doing everything that I had done in past years (very seldom busted) for scent control. That year I developed bronchitis and was coughing up some nasty mucous junk. I was being winded from a long distance and by all kinds of deer. Was playing the wind, but seemed like deer were approaching from the wrong way on several hunts. I couldn’t imagine what was different compared to previous years. Thinking through all the possibilities, I wondered if it might be my breath from all the junk I coughed up on a regular basis.


I decided to try cinnamon gum. I don’t remember being busted any more that season and know I had deer downwind (some in the same location and same wind direction).

I now chew one or two pieces of cinnamon gum as I travel to my spot and then have 1 of 2 pieces of cinnamon candy in my mouth on the way to my stand. If I’m on stand for a long time, I will have extra pieces of candy with me. Just curious why you said NOT Big Red?

Also, I powder my facemask, inside of my hat, outside of my hat with powdered carbon. I use the diluted white and/or gray powder (not as messy) and use a lot of it - the same that I mentioned in my previous post that I use on my boots and pant legs (most deer never notice my scent trail- even within an hour of my entering my stand). Head and breath are certainly parts of the body not to overlook when trying to fool a deer’s nose.

Thanks for the CS,

hbeckel

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Posted: 30 November 2011 01:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Nothing against Big Red as a company, i just feel their gum doesnt chew as nice for long periods…......i shouldve clarified that as i re-read it, it could be taken a few ways and i apologize. I think if your going to chew gum it should be able to CHEW for awhile and not turn into a semi-rock-type material within 20 min or you have to keep moving to get more gum. I shot a doe and the buck that was following her this year in Iowa within 2 min both were laying insight chewing sour apple gum wearing a hat that i NEVER washed from a smelly gas station store that stunk like greasy cheese hot dogs and all i did was shake it in the CS powder and that solved the problem. Sorry Big Red!

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Posted: 30 November 2011 01:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Was that the Angry Birds hat?

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Posted: 30 November 2011 01:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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It was the Angry Birds hat….....my kids drive me nuts with that game honestly but they love that i think of them when im gone enough to buy/wear it! which leads me to note to everyone how handy this is to treat your kids clothes to take them hunting. Its the only stuff i know that took Barbie shampoo smell odor out of my daughters hair so she could go hunting with me, just another way to think outta the box.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 07:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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CarbonSynergy…while sitting on stand for my last time this season tonight, I got to thinking.  Since it was my last hunt for the year, I took an absolute bath in CS before heading for the timber.  While sitting there I was wondering how safe it is to be breathing carbon through my face mask?

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Posted: 30 November 2011 07:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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You’re quittin’ early, John!

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Posted: 30 November 2011 07:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Well as everything that is a comes in powder form, it can cause an irritation but MSDS on the carbon we use is 100% safe. As well as the 99.9% pure silver additive we use. Now we dont advise it but the products in the bottle are completely edible. I know that sounds funny but its true. Now back to the issue of facemasks, it usually causes dry nostrils or dry throat as carbon can really dry out mucous membranes but some black boogers is the most issue you’ll get in the dose you achieved. With that being said is why the gum thing is so important that i stress. The amount of CS needed to achieve scent control efficiently out of the mouth is not really that practical to carry around. Some methods cut down exhaust odors but its really the moisture where bacteria breeds that becomes the issue on long sits…..........smell your mask after a long sit and tell me what you think? Sometimes ok but most times not even close to ok. Hope that answered some questions for everyone?

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Posted: 30 November 2011 08:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Thanks CS. 

Quitting early Walston.  I have wrist surgery this Friday which will more than likely end my season.  If I heal up in time, hopefully I can vet some late season in.  Im gonna try to gun hunt Friday afternoon but my wife is kind of against the idea.  For bow I may be done though.  Bummer tonight too.  Neighbor ripping out trees on fenceline with a backhoe 200 yards from me. Shockingly, I didn’t see anything.

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